THE BACK CHANNEL
As OPEN was being written on an online platform for real-time collaboration called PiratePad, the participants were able to simultaneously work on the document and chat with one another in a sidebar. This is a transcript of that chat.
Liam: Hello?
11:11Lisa: Great, we're on. thanks liam
11:15Lisa: Hi Sean
11:15SJPC: Hello... this is kind of great. It reminds me of AOL chatrooms from the 90s!
11:16SJPC: Do you recommend just using a word processing program and then cutting and pasting?
11:16Lisa: It's superfab. Almost like your Right Here
11:17Liam: SJPC - trade pics?
11:17Lisa: It would be more fun to see you writing here, but either way works
11:17Lisa: As a safety mechanism I for sure recommend copying out what you do here and saving it.
11:17chelsea: hello?!
11:18Lisa: I'll save throughout the day
11:18Lisa: Hi Chelsea. We're good
11:18unnamed: Hello.
11:18Alyssa: Hello again.
11:19SJPC: Liam, ha ha, a/s/l?
11:20Lisa: Hi Alyssa, welcome.
11:21chelsea: is there time frame for this project lisa? i a in SF and would only be able to check these texts intermittently, in order to add my two cents.
11:21chelsea: uh, that was meredith ward andrews.
11:22meredith: did i just steal chelsea's moniker?
11:22SJPC: Meredith Andrews!
11:22meredith: MEREDITH ANDREWS
11:22Liam: Does anybody remember where the idea that the best way to keep power is by giving it away? Some philosopher...
11:22Liam: Whoa, hi Meredith! this thing is rad!
11:22Lisa: Hi Meredith! I miss you! Glad you're here.
11:22meredith: it was happy happenstance.
11:22Lisa: No Liam. Let me think about it.
11:23meredith: anything we want to talk about? or specific to social practice work?
11:24SJPC: I want to talk about how Portland misses Meredith Andrews.
11:24Lisa: Hi Chelsea...there only time frame is between now and Tuesday
11:24meredith: you just made me face erupt with sunshine mr. carney.
11:24Lisa: So yes, check in any time, add, edit, etc
11:24Lisa: Well we can have Meredith virtually until she comes home. (hurry up)
11:25Lisa: So definitely add your two cents from San Francisco any time. I'll be working throughout the weekend for sure
11:26meredith: i've never written in this format- is it going to function like a paper-dump or like a discourse?
11:27Lisa: Probably both, Meredith
11:29Lisa: It can be a conversation, a call and response.
11:29Lisa: Or you can put your head down and write
11:31Lisa: Whoah the screen went blank for a sec. Let's be careful about saving out. Scary
11:34Lisa: Hi Mack
11:34Mack M: HI.
11:35Mack M: just reading for now
11:36SJPC: Lisa, if we "save out," we can return and find our particular part and then keep adding to it, correct?
11:38Lisa: I believe that is correct.
11:38Lisa: I'm just skittish about technology right now
11:38Lisa: So I'm wanting to save things
11:38Lisa: This morning was not a great technology morning
11:38Matthew Stadler: hi guys
11:38SJPC: Cool... not signing out just yet, I just anticipate being pulled away several times this weekend/day
11:39Lisa: But my faith is restored by using an open source version of Etherpad hosted in Sweden
11:39smeadows: whoops, hi!
11:39Lisa: Okay Sean, we're all going to be in and out all weekend
11:39Mack M: happy there is a new Etherpad
11:39Lisa: Hi Matthew
11:39Lisa: Hi Sara!
11:39Lisa: I know Mack
11:39smeadows: it wasn't matthew, it was me!
11:39smeadows: sorrry
11:39smeadows: getting the hang
11:41meredith: i am multi tasking! doing an expense report and trying to get a sense of how i can be part of your heads through this platform.
11:42Victor: Hey Lisa - thanks for getting me here!
11:42Lisa: Hi Victor! Finally
11:43smeadows: what are we trying to write exactly?
11:44smeadows: I mean, there are some questions about social engagement but....
11:44Lisa: HI Sara. We are writing about participatory/socially engaged/relational art
11:44smeadows: is there a main question or something we are trying to attack?
11:44smeadows: or just a free for all?
11:44Lisa: We can write about our experiences of it, our projects, it's antecedents
11:45smeadows: ok
11:45Lisa: I personally am interested in being able to think about it critically
11:45Lisa: I'm interested in thinking about it historically
11:45Lisa: And I'm interested in the right now experience
11:45smeadows: god I just like watching the writing appear
11:45Victor: Lisa, do you want us to unpack any of the quoted texts?
11:45Lisa: the experience of artists making work like this, knowing their intentions
11:46Lisa: And the experience of the participants
11:46Lisa: Yes, Victor. Go for it
11:46Lisa: Important
11:46Lisa: I still need to grab some of the other texts from booki that I was interested in
11:46Khris Soden: Hi gang! I'll be on here very sporadically, as I am at work.
11:46Lisa: And feel free to bring in texts, please
11:46Lisa: Hi Khris, glad you're here. Your contributions will be valuable
11:47Lisa: Can you maybe address the idea of collaboration within the group
11:47Lisa: I think this is key. The practice of collaboration within the group as well as between artis and participant
11:48chelsea E: i'm interested in doing a q and a with someone else
11:48Lisa: Good idea, C
11:50Alyssa: I have questions. Chelsea, will you answer them?
11:50chelsea E: totally!
11:50chelsea E: i'll look for the green!
11:57unnamed: I'm moving a few things over from booki
11:57unnamed: so things are going to move around a little
12:01lisa also: I threw in the bibliography in the end
12:02lisa also: let's add to it also
12:02lisa also: AND I'm going to make a contributors section at the end before the bibliography
12:02lisa also: Please add yourself to it
12:04Arthur Smid: hello?
12:05unnamed: Hi Arthur. Welcome.
12:05unnamed: We haven't done a lot what with moving to the new platform
12:09smeadows: if I want to paste in something from the web, is that ok?
12:10Lisa: Please do, Sara. It would be great to keep all texts together
12:10Lisa: There's a heading up near the top for texts
12:10Lisa: If it's an image or whatever, just put it where you're working
12:10Lisa: You can move things around later too
12:11smeadows: OK
12:13Lisa: Oh, and if you do paste, I think we should track attribution so paste in the URL as well
12:13smeadows: ok
12:13smeadows: sounds good
12:13meredith: am i allowed to respond to matthew stadlers question pertaining to the location of collaborative practice?
12:14meredith: where do i do that?
12:14meredith: not in his text, right?
12:14Matthew Stadler: Oh go for it!
12:14Matthew Stadler: Put it right in there, not a problem.
12:14smeadows: does anyone want to talk about Pierre Huyghe?
12:14smeadows: I just have QUESTIONS
Chat:
smeadows: does anyone want to talk about Pierre Huyghe?
12:14smeadows: I just have QUESTIONS
12:15smeadows: Is he engaged or just using people/places for his own ends, romanticizing and creating dramas that don't exist?
12:16Lisa: Sara, I think you should put these questions in the document
12:16Lisa: Put them under a Pierre Huyghe heading
12:16smeadows: alriiiiiiiight
12:16Lisa: This opens it up for people to answer over the nxt four days
12:16Lisa: maybe you'll answer over next four days
12:16Lisa: Thanks so much
12:18chelsea E: yeah, i don't even know who Pierre Huyghe is!
12:19Lisa: Sara, I am having a hard time focusing on one thing right now, so I'll want to engage that later
12:20smeadows: nbd just throwing it out there for whoever wants to think about it!
Chat:
Khris Soden: Does this chat column get archived along with the text? I'm hoping it does, because it would be an interesting companion document.
12:28Lisa: Matthew suggested the same thing, Khris.
12:28Lisa: He has made a separate pad to archive it
12:29Matthew Stadler: Chat is being saved (manually) at http://piratepad.net/5Q5ZMUwjD9
12:29Lisa: So Matthew cut and pasted it and we'll have to continue to do that throughout the weekend
Khris Soden: Does this chat column get archived along with the text? I'm hoping it does, because it would be an interesting companion document.
Lisa: So Matthew cut and pasted it and we'll have to continue to do that throughout the weekend
12:31Khris Soden: Tedious!
12:32Khris Soden: Also: Lisa, thanks for doing this, it's really great. And hi Matthew, glad you're here!
12:46Lisa: Aaaand...I have had to restart my computer. This is not a techno-awesome morning
12:50Lisa: I am going to move that "chapter one" below the intro
12:50Lisa: I don't know who wrote it
12:55Lisa: Liam, remember you were talking about drawing from some speculative texts as I recall
12:55Lisa: I don't remember what they are, but I would love to see them if you can add them
12:59smeadows: out to lunch- pop back in later!
13:03Lisa: See you soon, Sara thanks
13:16paige saez-falcon: hello lovely people
13:16paige saez-falcon: please tell me how i can help
13:16chelsea E: you should start writing!
13:18Khris Soden: Hey Paige!
13:20Lisa: HI Paige!
13:20Lisa: Paige can you perhaps talk about some of your projects
13:21Lisa: Paige, I was thinking about Little Cities at Gallery HOMELAND
13:21Lisa: do you remember that?
13:23Lisa: Or perhaps you could come at from another angle
13:24Lisa: You're experience in participatory tech for lack of better word
13:28Alyssa: Sean, are you orange?
13:28Sean: I am pink, aren't I?
13:28Lisa: looks like salmon
13:29Sean: Sure, salmon
13:29Alyssa: Yes, salmon. I will ask you green questions!
13:29Alyssa: I am all the way down at the bottom of the public pad right now.
13:30Sean: OK
13:30Alyssa: did you find it?
13:30Sean: I don't want to process all of those questions at once. I shall explode
13:31Lisa: can someone who is not me copy this chat out to the other pad, please?
13:31Lisa: http://piratepad.net/5Q5ZMUwjD9
13:31Lisa: I want to see Sean explode in text
Sean: OK.
13:33Sean: Do I write in that pad...
13:33Alyssa: yep.
13:33chelsea E: i just copied the whole thing, i guess I only needed to do the later half!
13:34Lisa: Thank you Chelsea, that's perfect for now.
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May 14, 2010
11:10 Liam: Hello?
11:11 Lisa: Great, we're on. thanks liam
11:15 Lisa: Hi Sean
11:15 SJPC: Hello... this is kind of great. It reminds me of AOL chatrooms from the 90s!
11:16 SJPC: Do you recommend just using a word processing program and then cutting and pasting?
11:16 Lisa: It's superfab. Almost like your Right Here
11:17 Liam: SJPC - trade pics?
11:17 Lisa: It would be more fun to see you writing here, but either way works
11:17 chelsea: hello?!
11:17 Lisa: As a safety mechanism I for sure recommend copying out what you do here and saving it.
11:18 Lisa: I'll save throughout the day
11:18 Lisa: Hi Chelsea. We're good
11:18 unnamed: Hello.
11:18 Alyssa: Hello again.
11:19 SJPC: Liam, ha ha, a/s/l?
11:20 Lisa: Hi Alyssa, welcome.
11:21 chelsea: is there time frame for this project lisa? i a in SF and would only be able to check these texts intermittently, in order to add my two cents.
11:21 chelsea: uh, that was meredith ward andrews.
11:22 meredith: did i just steal chelsea's moniker?
11:22 SJPC: Meredith Andrews!
11:22 meredith: MEREDITH ANDREWS
11:22 Liam: Does anybody remember where the idea that the best way to keep power is by giving it away? Some philosopher...
11:22 Liam: Whoa, hi Meredith! this thing is rad!
11:22 Lisa: Hi Meredith! I miss you! Glad you're here.
11:22 meredith: it was happy happenstance.
11:22 Lisa: No Liam. Let me think about it.
11:23 meredith: anything we want to talk about? or specific to social practice work?
11:24 SJPC: I want to talk about how Portland misses Meredith Andrews.
11:24 Lisa: Hi Chelsea...there only time frame is between now and Tuesday
11:24 meredith: you just made me face erupt with sunshine mr. carney.
11:24 Lisa: So yes, check in any time, add, edit, etc
11:24 Lisa: Well we can have Meredith virtually until she comes home. (hurry up)
11:25 Lisa: So definitely add your two cents from San Francisco any time. I'll be working throughout the weekend for sure
11:26 meredith: i've never written in this format- is it going to function like a paper-dump or like a discourse?
11:27 Lisa: Probably both, Meredith
11:29 Lisa: It can be a conversation, a call and response.
11:29 Lisa: Or you can put your head down and write
11:31 Lisa: Whoah the screen went blank for a sec. Let's be careful about saving out. Scary
11:34 Lisa: Hi Mack
11:34 Mack M: HI.
11:35 Mack M: just reading for now
11:36 SJPC: Lisa, if we "save out," we can return and find our particular part and then keep adding to it, correct?
11:38 Lisa: I believe that is correct.
11:38 Lisa: I'm just skittish about technology right now
11:38 Lisa: So I'm wanting to save things
11:38 Lisa: This morning was not a great technology morning
11:38 Matthew Stadler: hi guys
11:38 SJPC: Cool... not signing out just yet, I just anticipate being pulled away several times this weekend/day
11:39 Lisa: But my faith is restored by using an open source version of Etherpad hosted in Sweden
11:39 smeadows: whoops, hi!
11:39 Lisa: Okay Sean, we're all going to be in and out all weekend
11:39 Mack M: happy there is a new Etherpad
11:39 Lisa: Hi Matthew
11:39 Lisa: Hi Sara!
11:39 Lisa: I know Mack
11:39 smeadows: it wasn't matthew, it was me!
11:39 smeadows: sorrry
11:39 smeadows: getting the hang
11:41 meredith: i am multi tasking! doing an expense report and trying to get a sense of how i can be part of your heads through this platform.
11:42 Victor: Hey Lisa - thanks for getting me here!
11:42 Lisa: Hi Victor! Finally
11:43 smeadows: what are we trying to write exactly?
11:44 smeadows: I mean, there are some questions about social engagement but....
11:44 Lisa: HI Sara. We are writing about participatory/socially engaged/relational art
11:44 smeadows: is there a main question or something we are trying to attack?
11:44 smeadows: or just a free for all?
11:44 Lisa: We can write about our experiences of it, our projects, it's antecedents
11:45 smeadows: ok
11:45 Lisa: I personally am interested in being able to think about it critically
11:45 Lisa: I'm interested in thinking about it historically
11:45 Lisa: And I'm interested in the right now experience
11:45 smeadows: god I just like watching the writing appear
11:45 Victor: Lisa, do you want us to unpack any of the quoted texts?
11:45 Lisa: the experience of artists making work like this, knowing their intentions
11:46 Lisa: And the experience of the participants
11:46 Lisa: Yes, Victor. Go for it
11:46 Lisa: Important
11:46 Lisa: I still need to grab some of the other texts from booki that I was interested in
11:46 Khris Soden: Hi gang! I'll be on here very sporadically, as I am at work.
11:46 Lisa: And feel free to bring in texts, please
11:46 Lisa: Hi Khris, glad you're here. Your contributions will be valuable
11:47 Lisa: Can you maybe address the idea of collaboration within the group
11:47 Lisa: I think this is key. The practice of collaboration within the group as well as between artis and participant
11:48 chelsea E: i'm interested in doing a q and a with someone else
11:48 Lisa: Good idea, C
11:50 Alyssa: I have questions. Chelsea, will you answer them?
11:50 chelsea E: totally!
11:50 chelsea E: i'll look for the green!
11:57 unnamed: I'm moving a few things over from booki
11:57 unnamed: so things are going to move around a little
12:01 lisa also: I threw in the bibliography in the end
12:02 lisa also: let's add to it also
12:02 lisa also: AND I'm going to make a contributors section at the end before the bibliography
12:02 lisa also: Please add yourself to it
12:04 Arthur Smid: hello?
12:05 unnamed: Hi Arthur. Welcome.
12:05 unnamed: We haven't done a lot what with moving to the new platform
12:09 smeadows: if I want to paste in something from the web, is that ok?
12:10 Lisa: Please do, Sara. It would be great to keep all texts together
12:10 Lisa: There's a heading up near the top for texts
12:10 Lisa: If it's an image or whatever, just put it where you're working
12:10 Lisa: You can move things around later too
12:11 smeadows: OK
12:13 Lisa: Oh, and if you do paste, I think we should track attribution so paste in the URL as well
12:13 smeadows: ok
12:13 smeadows: sounds good
12:13 meredith: am i allowed to respond to matthew stadlers question pertaining to the location of collaborative practice?
12:14 meredith: where do i do that?
12:14 meredith: not in his text, right?
12:14 Matthew Stadler: Oh go for it!
12:14 Matthew Stadler: Put it right in there, not a problem.
12:14 smeadows: does anyone want to talk about Pierre Huyghe?
12:14 smeadows: I just have QUESTIONS
12:15 smeadows: Is he engaged or just using people/places for his own ends, romanticizing and creating dramas that don't exist?
12:16 Lisa: Sara, I think you should put these questions in the document
12:16 Lisa: Put them under a Pierre Huyghe heading
12:16 smeadows: alriiiiiiiight
12:16 Lisa: This opens it up for people to answer over the nxt four days
12:16 Lisa: maybe you'll answer over next four days
12:16 Lisa: Thanks so much
12:18 chelsea E: yeah, i don't even know who Pierre Huyghe is!
12:19 Lisa: Sara, I am having a hard time focusing on one thing right now, so I'll want to engage that later
12:20 smeadows: nbd just throwing it out there for whoever wants to think about it!
12:27 Khris Soden: Does this chat column get archived along with the text? I'm hoping it does, because it would be an interesting companion document.
12:28 Lisa: Matthew suggested the same thing, Khris.
12:28 Lisa: He has made a separate pad to archive it
12:29 Matthew Stadler: Chat is being saved (manually) at http://piratepad.net/5Q5ZMUwjD9
12:29 Lisa: So Matthew cut and pasted it and we'll have to continue to do that throughout the weekend
12:32 Khris Soden: Tedious!
12:33 Khris Soden: Also: Lisa, thanks for doing this, it's really great. And hi Matthew, glad you're here!
12:48 Lisa: Aaaand...I have had to restart my computer. This is not a techno-awesome morning
12:51 Lisa: I am going to move that "chapter one" below the intro
12:51 Lisa: I don't know who wrote it
12:56 Lisa: Liam, remember you were talking about drawing from some speculative texts as I recall
12:56 Lisa: I don't remember what they are, but I would love to see them if you can add them
13:00 smeadows: out to lunch- pop back in later!
13:04 Lisa: See you soon, Sara thanks
13:17 paige saez-falcon: hello lovely people
13:17 paige saez-falcon: please tell me how i can help
13:17 chelsea E: you should start writing!
13:19 Khris Soden: Hey Paige!
13:21 Lisa: HI Paige!
13:21 Lisa: Paige can you perhaps talk about some of your projects
13:22 Lisa: Paige, I was thinking about Little Cities at Gallery HOMELAND
13:22 Lisa: do you remember that?
13:25 Lisa: Or perhaps you could come at from another angle
13:25 Lisa: You're experience in participatory tech for lack of better word
13:29 Alyssa: Sean, are you orange?
13:29 Sean: I am pink, aren't I?
13:30 Lisa: looks like salmon
13:30 Sean: Sure, salmon
13:30 Alyssa: Yes, salmon. I will ask you green questions!
13:30 Alyssa: I am all the way down at the bottom of the public pad right now.
13:31 Sean: OK
13:31 Alyssa: did you find it?
13:32 Sean: I don't want to process all of those questions at once. I shall explode
13:32 Lisa: can someone who is not me copy this chat out to the other pad, please?
13:32 Lisa: http://piratepad.net/5Q5ZMUwjD9
13:32 Lisa: I want to see Sean explode in text
13:32 Alyssa: Can you just do this one again and we will go from there?
13:34Lisa: Just want to make sure we capture it
13:34Lisa: And I was having a hard time doing it on this computer
13:36widing: Please join in writing on Before, During, After
13:36chelsea E: just started reading it
13:36Lisa: Khris, I'm looking around...
13:36widing: I'm just thinking out loud. Please change whatever
13:37Lisa: If you're still here, can you please copy and paste the description from Red76 website into the document?
13:37Lisa: Hi Widing Thanks for the tip for piratepad
13:37Lisa: We'd be screwed without it.
13:37Lisa: Where in the document is before, during after
13:37widing: hehe
13:38widing: in the end before the interviews
13:38Zach: Hey!
13:38Lisa: Nice Pink Floyd quote BTS
13:38Lisa: BTW, by the way
13:38Lisa: Hi Zach
13:38Zach: Just got here, trying to figure out what's going on
13:38widing: i love this text-tool
13:38Lisa: I do too
13:39Lisa: Zach, we're writing at all points throughout the document
13:39Lisa: some are interviewing each other
13:39Lisa: some are writing essay, some pasting in text for us to consider
13:39Zach: awesome, Matthew just sent me here
13:39Lisa: Good. He just left
13:39Lisa: But we'll be working on the document throughout the weekend
13:40Zach: yeah, i'm figuring it out as i start reading :)
13:52widing: i'm goin out. might be back tomorrow.
13:52Lisa: Okay, I'm going to sign out shortly, but will be back this afternoon, tonight, tomorrow, &c
13:52Zach: paige, you still here?
13:53widing: hehe its 11pm here :)
13:54widing: so i don't now if we sync... we'll se
Zach: paige, you still here?
13:55widing: hehe its 11pm here :)
13:55widing: so i don't now if we sync... we'll see
14:09Lisa: Okay, I'm out. see you later
14:27Jen R: what happens if i put words in this box
14:29unnamed: Is this the right spot for Open? I was on Booki and couldn't do anything
14:29unnamed: I found this by fluke
14:42Khris Soden: Oops! Formatting nightmare!
14:43Khris Soden: Hey Jen!
15:13Arthur Smid: I started a chapter a few hours ago to write with the group; I can't find it in the public pad. What happened?
15:14Arthur Smid: ah-ha! I found it
15:14Arthur Smid: line 120
15:14Arthur Smid: I guess?
15:14Arthur Smid: I imagine the line number changes as more text is added above?
15:14Arthur Smid: let's find out...
15:14Arthur Smid: yes.
15:15Arthur Smid: hmm.
15:15Arthur Smid: how to find stuff?
16:20Jen R: whew!
16:39Jen R: more bibliography...do i just tack it on?
17:10Lisa: Hi Jen, just tack it on!
17:10Lisa: Hi Arthur, I might have moved what you did down below texts
17:10Lisa: That's a possiblility
17:10Lisa: and folks will be adding things throughout the weekend, so things will move around
17:13Lisa: Also, please everyone, put a little bio in the contributors section near the end right before bibliography
17:17Jen R: Hi Lisa- do you know about the awesome book:
17:18Jen R: The Swedish Dance History ? 1037 page book made in one day? totally brilliant...
17:23Lisa: I don't know it, but I'm looking forward to checking it out!!
17:23Lisa: How the hell are you anyway?
17:26Jen R: Good. I think the book is a bit rare- I'll have it on me next time im in pdx...(next wed night and early june)
17:28Jen R: off to yoga :) ....
17:39Lisa: Great, hope to see you later this weekend Jen
17:39Lisa: "see"
Lisa: Thankful to see that some of you have been able to get your thoughts together. I have been running around and generally un-able.
21:44 Lisa: Hi Jen
21:50 Jen R: oh i see- you can tell whose logged on by the list up there
22:07 Lisa: Hi, welcome.
22:25 meredith: i'm back.
22:25 meredith: just to read it over, and think a bit.
22:31 Lisa: Hi Meredith
22:31 Lisa: That's totally where I am
22:31 meredith: i just ate dinner with rob hunter from the grateful dead. i swear.
22:31 Lisa: It's been a long, unrpoductive day
22:31 Lisa: !!!
22:32 Lisa: Hi Victor.
22:32 meredith: talking to people who are assumed to hold some kind of sanctified social space for a long period time has made me SO EXCITED for this project.
22:32 meredith: hi victor!
22:33 Victor: Sorry to hear your day wasn't as productive. Hi Meredith
22:33 Lisa: I can't imagine, Meredith
22:33 Victor: What area are you guys working on?
22:34 meredith: lisa, i think your unproductivity must be must be self-interpretation. because this project has already made me feel so close to my home though i'm far away!
22:35 Lisa: That's so cool Meredith.
22:36 Lisa: Victor, I'm working on this narrative near the top of a neighborhood event
22:36 Lisa: and it's potential equivalency with a comparable art project
May 15, 2010
9:18 Leo Nordwall // Interacting Arts: Hi. For how much longer is the writing going on?
10:33 widing: Leo! Please fill me on in the chapter Before, During, After
14:48 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: anybody home?
14:49 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown is painting her nails. (Cobalt blue!)
14:49 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: is drinking tea. (Decaf Earl Grey!)
14:50 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: 's iPhone says she is walking into Floyd's Garage right now.
14:50 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: believes chats and status lines are superduperperformative.
14:50 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: has been doing this online text experiment collaboration performance conceptual art thing for 18 FUCKING YEARS. Why does it still seem irresistible? Will someone help? Help.
14:51 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: is talking to herself again.
15:02 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: and doesn't really have an iPhone or nail paint.
15:04 Leo Nordwall // Interacting Arts: hi
17:15 Lisa: This writing goes on until Tuesday. We've just begun.
17:15 Lisa: And I've been under the weather. Far under. Good to check in and see what you all have been up to.
17:16 Lisa: Hi sara, Zach, Tiff are you still here as well?
17:31 Lisa: Ha, can't believe I'm writing about a Beatles song as metaphor. Oh where things take you.
17:34 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: come together right now, baby.
17:35 Lisa: I will say, I didn't know the word "armchair" was in that song
17:36 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: if you sing it backward twice fast, "armchair" actually says "Hail Satan."
17:37 Lisa: Ha. I thought backward only worked on Zep
17:38 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: depends what yr smokin'
17:38 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: is this the kind of deep intellectual dialogue you had in mind?
17:38 Lisa: Yes, that's why I invited Tiffany.
17:39 Lisa: Actually, as I was curled up in a ball today, drifting in and out, I was wondering what was going on here, and hoping good things were happening.
17:39 Lisa: They were.
17:44 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: i had fun dropping in here between walks and sunshine moment
17:44 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: s
17:46 Lisa: Thank for doing it Tiff. Glad you got outside. It's an amazing day
17:46 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: were you doing Art Things today?
17:47 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: any particularly juicy moments at Open Engagement?
May 15, 2010
17:38 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: is this the kind of deep intellectual dialogue you had in mind?
17:38 Lisa: Yes, that's why I invited Tiffany.
17:39 Lisa: Actually, as I was curled up in a ball today, drifting in and out, I was wondering what was going on here, and hoping good things were happening.
17:39 Lisa: They were.
17:44 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: i had fun dropping in here between walks and sunshine moment
17:44 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: s
17:46 Lisa: Thank for doing it Tiff. Glad you got outside. It's an amazing day
17:46 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: were you doing Art Things today?
17:47 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: any particularly juicy moments at Open Engagement?
17:49 Lisa: I wish I knew. This is the first time I've been vertical all day. Sick.
17:52 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: oh crap, sorry to hear that.
18:34 Victor: Lisa - what's B6?
18:38 Victor: I'm hoping you mean the vitamin?
18:39 Victor: Trying to use Groys quote to create image of dinner party conversationalist,
18:39 Victor: Not so easy. Help.
18:42 Lisa: Hi Victor
18:42 Lisa: B6 is vitamin
18:42 Lisa: I didn't write that
18:42 Lisa: what line are you working on?
18:55 Lisa: I'll be back
21:47 meredith: OH TIFFANY, I AM SO HAPPY TO BE ONLINE WITH YOU.
21:51 meredith: lisa, what is the novel you are working on about?
22:34 swi: is it over?
22:57 swi: it appears to be over.
May 16, 2010
9:59 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: it ain't over til someone takes it offline...
10:00 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: (Victor: B6 referred to cutting drugs.)
10:00 Tiffany Lee "Obnoxiola" Brown: (I used to work in a headshop. We sold a lot of white, powdered B vitamins.)
10:17 Lisa: Hi Scott. No.
10:20 Lisa: We are working until Tuesday, and on Monday we'll be live at PICA from 10-2
10:24 Lisa: Hoping people who went to sessions yesterday might write a little note about them, your impressions
10:45 Lisa: Hi Khris
10:46 Khris Soden: Hey Lisa! I'm happy to be back and writing, but I wish I had a second self so I could catch up on the reading!
10:46 Lisa: I know what you mean. I was OUT all day yesterday. Sick and down for the count.
10:46 Lisa: We'll have plenty of time to read later.
10:47 Khris Soden: What a day for that to happen!
10:47 Lisa: No kidding.
10:47 Lisa: I have three threads I'm working on/thinking about and I still need to run out and see stuff today
10:47 Lisa: tonight will be busy for me
10:48 Khris Soden: I hope you're feeling better, and don't have to push yourself too much!
10:49 Lisa: Thanks Khris. It's just dumb. I never get sick
May 16, 2010
10:24 Lisa: Hoping people who went to sessions yesterday might write a little note about them, your impressions
10:45 Lisa: Hi Khris
10:46 Khris Soden: Hey Lisa! I'm happy to be back and writing, but I wish I had a second self so I could catch up on the reading!
10:46 Lisa: I know what you mean. I was OUT all day yesterday. Sick and down for the count.
10:47 Lisa: We'll have plenty of time to read later.
10:47 Khris Soden: What a day for that to happen!
10:47 Lisa: No kidding.
10:47 Lisa: I have three threads I'm working on/thinking about and I still need to run out and see stuff today
10:47 Lisa: tonight will be busy for me
10:48 Khris Soden: I hope you're feeling better, and don't have to push yourself too much!
10:49 Lisa: Thanks Khris. It's just dumb. I never get sick
10:52 Khris Soden: I'm sure that the stress of getting this thing flying on Friday didn't help!
10:52 Lisa: Did you know that for the first hour, we were completely hung up because the other site wasn't working?
10:53 Lisa: Long live improvisation.
10:53 Khris Soden: Exactly!
10:53 Lisa: And Scandinavian hackers
10:53 Khris Soden: Whoa, I missed out on that.
10:54 Lisa: The Scandinavians are those we have to thank for this PiratePad platform
10:54 Lisa: They took the released Etherpad code and made this site!
10:54 Lisa: So we scored.
10:54 Lisa: 'Cause Etherpad's servers were supposedly shut down on Friday. Nice timing
10:55 Khris Soden: Well, I'm glad you didn't have to resort to Google Wave...
10:56 Lisa: That was an early suggestion that would have been a nightmare in my opinion.
10:58 Khris Soden: Agreed.
11:05 Lisa: Hi Victor! Did you see Tiffany's comments here earlier re: B6?
11:11 Victor: Lisa - making my way through Groys from top through bottom. Going back to edit tonight.
11:12 Victor: Hope you're feeling better.
11:12 Lisa: Nice, Thanks Victor.
11:13 Lisa: Glad you're working on this.
11:13 Victor: Tiffany - I'm going to foloow your lead. I love improvisation!
May 16, 2010
10:24 Lisa: Hoping people who went to sessions yesterday might write a little note about them, your impressions
10:45 Lisa: Hi Khris
10:46 Khris Soden: Hey Lisa! I'm happy to be back and writing, but I wish I had a second self so I could catch up on the reading!
10:46 Lisa: I know what you mean. I was OUT all day yesterday. Sick and down for the count.
10:47 Lisa: We'll have plenty of time to read later.
10:47 Khris Soden: What a day for that to happen!
10:47 Lisa: No kidding.
10:47 Lisa: I have three threads I'm working on/thinking about and I still need to run out and see stuff today
10:47 Lisa: tonight will be busy for me
10:48 Khris Soden: I hope you're feeling better, and don't have to push yourself too much!
10:49 Lisa: Thanks Khris. It's just dumb. I never get sick
10:52 Khris Soden: I'm sure that the stress of getting this thing flying on Friday didn't help!
10:52 Lisa: Did you know that for the first hour, we were completely hung up because the other site wasn't working?
10:53 Lisa: Long live improvisation.
10:53 Khris Soden: Exactly!
10:53 Lisa: And Scandinavian hackers
10:53 Khris Soden: Whoa, I missed out on that.
10:54 Lisa: The Scandinavians are those we have to thank for this PiratePad platform
10:54 Lisa: They took the released Etherpad code and made this site!
10:54 Lisa: So we scored.
10:54 Lisa: 'Cause Etherpad's servers were supposedly shut down on Friday. Nice timing
10:55 Khris Soden: Well, I'm glad you didn't have to resort to Google Wave...
10:56 Lisa: That was an early suggestion that would have been a nightmare in my opinion.
10:58 Khris Soden: Agreed.
11:05 Lisa: Hi Victor! Did you see Tiffany's comments here earlier re: B6?
11:11 Victor: Lisa - making my way through Groys from top through bottom. Going back to edit tonight.
11:12 Victor: Hope you're feeling better.
11:12 Lisa: Nice, Thanks Victor.
11:13 Lisa: Glad you're working on this.
11:13 Victor: Tiffany - I'm going to foloow your lead. I love improvisation!
12:17 Jen R: sorry- i just butted in to cheer your concerns!
12:17 Khris Soden: Hey Jen!
12:17 Khris Soden: No worries! I'm glad you're here! Yay!
12:18 Jen R: I'll stop writing in side your writing now. you can delete the green
12:18 Jen R: :)
12:20 Lisa: Hi Jen. I'm going to check out what you guys are up to.
12:21 Khris Soden: I'll finish my thoughts on Intimacy and Place, and then I think you should dig in, Jen. Please feel free to add anything to what I've already written, or keep on going at the bottom. I wonder if Katy will join us at some point?
12:21 Lisa: Wow, Khris, what you've written here is such a thoughtful consideration.. So important.
12:22 Jen R: i'll textencourage her- i think shes running around for all these days..
12:22 Khris Soden: Aw, thanks Lisa!
12:22 Lisa: Maybe Katy could chime in on Tuesday. We'll still be working on this one day after conference ends
12:33 Khris Soden: Jen, if you're around, please feel free to hit that "Intimacy" portion, because I think you've got a lot of great stuff to add there. I'm going to be writing on the "Place" part.
12:56 Lisa: Hi Sara
12:56 smeadows: hello
12:56 smeadows: i popped back in!
12:56 smeadows: haven't had coffee yet, just reading a bit
12:56 Lisa: Lots to read.
12:57 smeadows: so much to read!
12:57 smeadows: it looks like people are writing in each other's writing now
12:57 smeadows: which is so great
12:57 smeadows: or, you know, back and forth
12:57 Lisa: Yes, I think it makes it conversational and interesting
12:57 smeadows: and the colors.....
12:57 Lisa: I'm very interested in a coral reef as analog for this project
12:58 Lisa: where the coral builds up over time
12:58 smeadows: ahhhhhhhhhh
12:58 smeadows: that's nice
12:59 smeadows: people seem to be talking a lot from personal experience
12:59 Lisa: Yes, it's important.
12:59 smeadows: the conversation is so nice!
12:59 smeadows: I have half a mind to delete mine
13:00 smeadows: start over
13:00 Lisa: Don't do it, Sara
13:00 Lisa: Let people respond to it. We have two more days to go
13:00 smeadows: sure, ok
13:05 smeadows: oh it would make more sense next to the bit about the neighborhood celebration!
13:05 smeadows: duh
13:05 smeadows: same topic, one event framed as art and one not
13:07 Lisa: Sara, feel free to move things around. This is malleable
13:10 smeadows: I did it! Feel free to move it back or elsewhere!
13:10 smeadows: later I'll try to reframe, do some actual writing in the place of questions
13:11 Lisa: Great! That neighborhood thing is what I have been working on. If you have further thoughts on it, please feel free...
13:11 Lisa: I like questions, BTW
13:11 smeadows: I need to drink coffee
13:11 smeadows: brb
13:11 Lisa: do it.
13:11 smeadows: later
13:33 Lisa: Arnold and Sean, it looks like some of your conversation got cut off!
13:38 Lisa: PiratePad is misbehaving, throwing hard line breaks into my para's
13:44 Lisa: Hey Scot!
14:08 Lisa: I'm running out to panels &c now
16:12 Scot: Learning...
17:29 Lisa: Okay.
18:32 Lisa: Hi all, feel free to respond to writings you see here. The conversations in writing have been interesting.
19:14 Lisa: brb,
19:34 swi: hi
19:37 Alyssa: I want to add in a report on Me her and Us, one of the parallel sessions from yesterday. Is there a chapter created for reporting on Open Conference events?
19:38 Alyssa: Lisa, anyone?
19:41 Alyssa: Okay, there must not be a premade section, so I will make one line 311 now begins the chapter: Open Engagement Conference Events. Feel free to retitle better :)
19:48 swi: Alyssa, hi, can you bring me up to speed on the document? Thx.
20:07 Lisa: Hi Alyssa
20:07 Lisa: Hi Scott Wayne. Are you guys still here?
20:07 Lisa: Alyssa, thank you so much for doing that!
20:08 Lisa: Scott, we're all working on different aspects of the document. You can write whatever you want or respond to some writings you see here
20:09 Lisa: I would be interested to have you talk about aspects of the horse project
20:09 swi: ok
20:09 Lisa: especially collaborative aspects, and releasing it to be a project by anyone anywhere
20:10 Lisa: or you could talk about documentation
20:12 swi: it's nice to see so many people enjoying the project.
20:23 Lisa: Right on!
20:23 Lisa: Hi Paige.
21:45 Lisa: Finaly reading some stuff
21:45 Lisa: I love that some things that I felt demanded response are getting it
21:45 Lisa: Nice.
May 16, 2010
20:10 Lisa: especially collaborative aspects, and releasing it to be a project by anyone anywhere
20:10 Lisa: or you could talk about documentation
20:12 swi: it's nice to see so many people enjoying the project.
20:23 Lisa: Right on!
20:24 Lisa: Hi Paige.
21:45 Lisa: Finaly reading some stuff
21:45 Lisa: I love that some things that I felt demanded response are getting it
21:45 Lisa: Nice.
21:59 Lisa: Hi Meredith
22:05 meredith: HI PAIGE! come home to SF.
22:05 meredith: hi scott, yo are beautiful.
22:06 meredith: hi lisa you are so beautiful.
22:06 Lisa: Hi Meredith, you are the one who has to come home.
22:09 meredith: i'm coming. but for the moment, i'm getting mentored.
22:09 Lisa: In what way?
22:09 Lisa: Are you still in Palo Alto or are you in SF?
22:11 meredith: kind of both. i am the personal assistant to two pretty fantastic artists. folks that started a project called platial and now they are hot in palo alto.
22:14 Lisa: I have met DiAnn (sp?). And I know/knew Platial. Now she's Waze.
22:16 meredith: now she's waze! now i am kind of waze, they are even packing me up with them to isreal in a month.
22:16 Lisa: Wow, nice.
22:16 meredith: i LOVE female rolemodels. would amputate a toe for one.
22:46 Lisa: Wow, a ton of the text at the end is invisible at the moment.
22:46 Lisa: That's disturbing
22:47 Lisa: Hey Victor, I think we should move your work on Groys out of the Texts section to its own section. What do you think?
22:47 Lisa: Or I should say, do you mind?
22:47 meredith: what's disturbing?
22:48 Lisa: Can you see any text below line 687?
22:48 Lisa: Because it's invisible for me though I am able to copy it out and paste it elsewhere and read it
23:00 Lisa: Signing off for the eve. Back at it tomorrow.
May 17, 2010
6:59 Lisa: Hmm, That's annoying.I'm using a different browser and stilll for me the lines blow 709 are invisible. I wonder if I should start a new pad, if we've reached some max
7:09 Lisa: Debating whether to start a new pad. Right now contributor's list is hidden, bibliography hidden, and Arnold and Sean's contribution hidden
7:09 Lisa: plus the end of what Khris wrote
7:21 Lisa: HI.
7:21 nessnixtony: Hi Lisa
7:21 nessnixtony: RU starting a new pad?
7:22 Lisa: I think I'm going to have to, but I'm not sure what to move over.
7:23 Lisa: Can you look and see if you can see text below line 680, please?
7:23 Lisa: Maybe it's just me.
7:23 nessnixtony: Maybe you coul djust start a new pad with the instruction and keep this one alive with a link for folks to refer to
7:23 nessnixtony: sure
7:23 nessnixtony: Nope stops right at line 680- Intimacy
7:24 nessnixtony: but your comments on the issues (added at top- took)
7:25 Lisa: The trouble is that I have to take out enough so that if someone writes in the first pad it won't fall off the end.
7:26 Lisa: Because I want people to be able to comment on things that are already written.
7:26 Lisa: Grrr.
7:26 Lisa: thanks for looking
7:26 nessnixtony: what a bummer.
7:26 nessnixtony: sure
7:26 nessnixtony: seems like it will end up being an edting nightmare for you living in three places.
7:27 Lisa: I pulled most everything from booki, but I haven't checked it in 24 hours either
7:27 nessnixtony: I'm gonna go ahead and read and get a feel, if that's ok. Kristin and I are coming over this afternoon.
7:27 Lisa: And I still haven't sorted out how much editing one should do
7:27 Lisa: Okay great.
7:27 Lisa: If something disappears, that's me.
7:28 nessnixtony: okey doke
7:28 nessnixtony: If you need help with sorting it out later- a volunteer to boss around, let me know. I can probably give you some time.
7:29 Lisa: Thank you. I may take you up on that.
7:33 Lisa: Okay, things are going to start moving around.
7:59 Lisa: Some content has moved to new PiratePad http://piratepad.net/erdnyzkeMu
7:59 Lisa: Check Table of Contents for what's where
8:11 Lisa: Hi Jay.
8:11 Lisa: Warning: I'm moving some things around to make room for more
8:11 Lisa: we reached the limit of what this pad can handle, apparently
May 17, 2010
9:27 Lisa: But I'm going to have to run in a minute to get down to PICA on time
9:28 Liam: Yes, what I wrote is gone. I just exported them to a txt file and searched and it's gone.
9:30 Liam: It's not a big deal. I can't find the stuff SJPC wrote either.
9:37 Lisa: It is a big deal. I couldn't see the begining of what Sean wrote either. I am going to try, when I get down to PICA to use that time slider or the saved revisions and see if I can find it
9:38 Lisa: See you down there.
10:58 chelsea E: i've been thinking about music and fashion on the larger scale, is this too much because its a comercial good?
11:05 Lisa: http://piratepad.net/erdnyzkeMu
11:05 Lisa: That's the address of the new PiratePad for new topics
11:06 Lisa: Hi Victor.
11:08 Lisa: Victor, can you move your writing out of the Text section and create a new heading for it?
11:08 Lisa: Hi Jeffrey
11:08 Lisa: Let's put new topics on the other pad http://piratepad.net/erdnyzkeMu
11:09 Lisa: But feel free to write on writings here as well
11:15 Victor: Lisa - any suggestions on where it would flow best?
11:15 Victor: The End?
11:16 Lisa: No, I want it up near the top please.
11:16 Lisa: But not above Texts. Perhaps right after makes sense.
11:17 Victor: Got it.
11:22 Victor: What is right after texts?
11:30 Lisa: Line 199, right after Pink Floyd and before Open Engagement Conference Events
11:34 Lisa: Warning: I'm going to move one more section to the other PiratePad to free up space.
11:46 Lisa: Hi Khris! Welcome back
11:55 Khris Soden: Hey Lisa! Chaotic!
11:55 Lisa: I know.
12:13 Victor: Thanks Lisa - just went offline to edit a bit.
12:14 Victor: Changed some of the junkie reference.
12:14 Victor: Think someone else was using it already?
12:16 Victor: Everybody - feel free to copy edit This Is The End: Death And Other Sensory Thresholds - still working on it.
12:21 Lisa: Hi! Hey Victor, Matt Rana is here right now.
12:25 Victor: Hi Matt.
May 17, 2010
8:47 nessnixtony: Hi Lisa
8:48 nessnixtony: i am stopping by Violetta on my way over to you today (around 11 or 11:30am) two questions: 1) Is it ok to bring food? 2) Do you want me to grab anything for you on my way over?
9:08 nessnixtony: I'll check back before I head over to see if you sent me answer
9:17 Lisa: Thanks.
10:03 Lisa: This pad is a continuation of and companion to http://piratepad.net/b51CXFYiZD where we ran out of room earlier
11:34 Lisa: Warning: I'm going to paste in a section from the other PiratePad here to free up space in the other doc for back and forth
11:42 ptcpatrick: Hey Lisa, all. I have a short piece I can throw on for now, if I can wrap my luddite mind around how to post it.
11:44 ptcpatrick: Seems like it worked
12:01 Lisa: Right on.
12:01 Lisa: Where is it?
12:02 ptcpatrick: Right above the contributors?
12:02 ptcpatrick: well, now two up from the contributors
12:02 Lisa: Great! and then did you add your name to contributors below, please?
12:02 ptcpatrick: done
12:03 ptcpatrick: have another little ditty but may want to develop it beyond a sound bite/precept. We'll see.
12:05 ptcpatrick: and my concerns about how germane the text is remains. If it's not appropriate, feel free to 86 it.
12:06 Lisa: Thank you so much!
12:07 ptcpatrick: You're welcome. Hope to meet someday.
12:08 Lisa: Did you put your name in the contributors section?
12:09 Lisa: Please.
12:10 nessnixtony: OK, not able to make it to PICA afterall- will be contributing form home
12:10 nessnixtony: from
12:10 Lisa: great
12:10 ptcpatrick: Right after Alyssa, Lisa.
12:12 Lisa: Thank you
12:31 Lisa: Is anyone able to access the other PiratePad right now?
12:33 Khris Soden: I had to close my tab and reload it - that ended up working.
12:33 Lisa: Okay, thanks Khris, I'm going to try it. Worry worry
12:34 Lisa: Got it, okay
12:53 Victor: Lisa - do you want me to move my chapter to this pad or keep it on the first?
12:58 Victor: Patrick - are you The Persistent Complicity essay?
13:11 Lisa: Victor, leave it where it is for now, and Liam and I are talking about creating some organization here.
May 17, 2010
11:55 Khris Soden: Hey Lisa! Chaotic!
11:55 Lisa: I know.
12:13 Victor: Thanks Lisa - just went offline to edit a bit.
12:14 Victor: Changed some of the junkie reference.
12:14 Victor: Think someone else was using it already?
12:16 Victor: Everybody - feel free to copy edit This Is The End: Death And Other Sensory Thresholds - still working on it.
12:21 Lisa: Hi! Hey Victor, Matt Rana is here right now.
12:25 Victor: Hi Matt.
12:37 ptcpatrick: Smart Victor ;
12:38 ptcpatrick: -0
12:38 ptcpatrick: my bro
12:47 Victor: Feel free to add ptcpatrick.
12:48 ptcpatrick: I did on the other page. Rereading yours right now.
12:48 Victor: Wow - forgot about the other page
12:56 Victor: Going to find and read yours Patrick. Still working mine out.
12:57 Lisa: Yes, here's another reminder that we are working both in this PiratePad and this one: http://piratepad.net/erdnyzkeMu
12:58 Lisa: Verlaine!
12:58 nessnixtony: Yep- I thougth it fitting for this section!
12:58 nessnixtony: love it
13:08 jeffrey gormly: hello all. jeffrey here again. i have a big lump to put into the book. where should it go?
13:08 chelsea E: put it in the second pad http://piratepad.net/erdnyzkeMu
13:08 chelsea E: we ran out of room on this one!
13:10 Lisa: Thank you so much Jeffrey
14:00 nessnixtony: 2pm goodbye all!
17:52 liam: Well I ended up writing the most pessimistic thing I've ever writen.
17:53 liam: Oopies!
20:42 unnamed: Hi, It's edie. I'm wondering, do I just insert my thoughts on the left side anywhere I have an idea?
20:45 Liam: Sure, or next to a similar idea.
23:00 Lisa: Where is your piece, Liam?
23:00 Liam: toward the bottom. I'm finishing it right now.
23:02 Lisa: No art but class war?
23:02 Liam: yep.
23:07 Lisa: I'm into it Liam. Thanks for doing it.
23:27 Lisa: I'll be back at it tomorrow AM
May 18, 2010
8:44 Lisa: Hi Khris, what are you working on? Today is my big essay and tying things together day
9:23 Matthew Rana: good morning Lisa
9:24 Matthew Rana: I'm copying my talk on ethics into the text at around line 280
9:24 Matthew Rana: Victor got intouch and we're going to do an interview via email
9:25 Matthew Rana: Thanks again.
9:31 Lisa: Hi Matt! Thank you so much for doing this.
9:32 Lisa: And I'm glad you're going to talk to Victor
9:32 Matthew Rana: Thank you for the opportunity. I'm glad to be able to contribute to this.
9:32 Lisa: Are you heading back today or tomorrow?
9:33 Matthew Rana: Yeah, me too. We're heading out within the hour, actually.
9:33 Lisa: Have a good trip. Glad we met.
9:33 Matthew Rana: Likewise.
10:06 Khris Soden: Hey Lisa. I've got the window open while I'm here at work. I may add a bit more to the M.O.S.T. piece I was working on if I get a chance.
10:07 Lisa: Hi Khris. Thanks so much. I think it's a great perspective.
10:07 Lisa: I'm just thinking I have a lot of work to do to try to contextualize all of this.
10:07 Lisa: And I haven't even written the essay I really want to write yet
10:07 Lisa: I've done more facilitating than I expected. I like it, but I wasn't prepared for it.
10:08 Khris Soden: Yeah, how much editing are you planning on doing on this stuff?
10:09 Lisa: I really don't know.
10:09 Lisa: For sure, I am going to try to get it organized and copyedit
10:10 Lisa: But I think I should leave the writing as is.
10:10 Khris Soden: Geez, I just scrolled over both sections - it's become very large!
10:10 Lisa: Which is why creating context and explaining the project is important.
10:10 Lisa: Yes it has.
17:38 Lisa: Hi Meredith, I just called you on the phone!
17:39 meredith: oh. let me go listen to the message....you can always call me! i love female rolemodels.
17:40 Lisa: I stumbled on your phone number on FB when I was looking for info to write a bio for you.
17:40 Lisa: Maybe you could write it...
17:40 Lisa: http://piratepad.net/erdnyzkeMu
17:40 Lisa: at the end
17:40 Lisa: Hi Alyssa
17:40 Alyssa: Hi
17:40 Alyssa: just scrolling over stuff. did it go to print yet?
17:41 meredith: i would love to.
17:41 Lisa: No, Alyssa.
17:41 Lisa: I still have a lot of work to do. There's an essay I'm finishing, and I think I need to organize and proofread.
17:41 Lisa: Liam is doing it too on the other doc http://piratepad.net/erdnyzkeMu
17:42 Alyssa: When I stopped by to insert a report on a workshop from Open, I found myself really wanting to proofread and format.
17:42 meredith: Lisa what time exactly do i have until to contribute?
17:43 Lisa: Probably tomorrow morning.
17:43 Lisa: Alyssa, if you want to dig in and do that, please feel free
17:57 Alyssa: yay! the formatting dance is thereapeutic
17:58 Lisa: Yes! I'm so glad. Thank you so much for helping.
17:58 Lisa: Re: the Table of Contents...I remember there's something called Yellow in the second doc that's not in the TOC
17:59 Lisa: Okay, I have to run. I'll be back at 8 PM. Thanks for everything
21:32 Lisa: Moving things around. Sorry if it's jarring.
May 19, 2010
7:26 Lisa: I have pulled this document out of PiratePad to clean it up, because it seems like we're losing text at the bottom again. If you have anything to add, please email me at radon at ultrapdx.com
May 17, 2010
8:47 nessnixtony: Hi Lisa
8:48 nessnixtony: i am stopping by Violetta on my way over to you today (around 11 or 11:30am) two questions: 1) Is it ok to bring food? 2) Do you want me to grab anything for you on my way over?
9:08 nessnixtony: I'll check back before I head over to see if you sent me answer
9:17 Lisa: Thanks.
10:03 Lisa: This pad is a continuation of and companion to http://piratepad.net/b51CXFYiZD where we ran out of room earlier
11:34 Lisa: Warning: I'm going to paste in a section from the other PiratePad here to free up space in the other doc for back and forth
11:42 ptcpatrick: Hey Lisa, all. I have a short piece I can throw on for now, if I can wrap my luddite mind around how to post it.
11:44 ptcpatrick: Seems like it worked
12:01 Lisa: Right on.
12:01 Lisa: Where is it?
12:02 ptcpatrick: Right above the contributors?
12:02 ptcpatrick: well, now two up from the contributors
12:02 Lisa: Great! and then did you add your name to contributors below, please?
12:02 ptcpatrick: done
12:03 ptcpatrick: have another little ditty but may want to develop it beyond a sound bite/precept. We'll see.
12:05 ptcpatrick: and my concerns about how germane the text is remains. If it's not appropriate, feel free to 86 it.
12:06 Lisa: Thank you so much!
12:07 ptcpatrick: You're welcome. Hope to meet someday.
12:08 Lisa: Did you put your name in the contributors section?
12:09 Lisa: Please.
12:10 nessnixtony: OK, not able to make it to PICA afterall- will be contributing form home
12:10 nessnixtony: from
12:10 Lisa: great
12:10 ptcpatrick: Right after Alyssa, Lisa.
12:12 Lisa: Thank you
12:31 Lisa: Is anyone able to access the other PiratePad right now?
12:33 Khris Soden: I had to close my tab and reload it - that ended up working.
12:33 Lisa: Okay, thanks Khris, I'm going to try it. Worry worry
12:34 Lisa: Got it, okay
12:53 Victor: Lisa - do you want me to move my chapter to this pad or keep it on the first?
12:58 Victor: Patrick - are you The Persistent Complicity essay?
13:11 Lisa: Victor, leave it where it is for now, and Liam and I are talking about creating some organization here.
13:15 ptcpatrick: I am. Maybe not so sweet, eh?
13:16 Lisa: So things may move around eventually.
13:33 nessnixtony: There will be no editing or grammar, punctutation or Caps on or off, right?
13:35 nessnixtony: I ask because I just posted a piece that purposefully sidesteps all of that- it would be wholly changed if it were put n place later
13:47 jeffrey gormly: ok guys thats me . did a little copy-editing to boost general morale, now i've got to kill the connection and let the child sleep in unradiated peace. i hope you all do too when you're done
13:48 nessnixtony: bye Jeff
14:01 nessnixtony: 2pm- I'm off, goodbye all.
14:02 ptcpatrick: Lisa, thanks for providing this forum.
14:07 nessnixtony: Thanks Lisa! We all know how hard you worked to keep this going for us all!
14:08 Lisa: Thanks everyone. I'm going to check out for a while and go see a panel.
May 18, 2010
7:44 Jen R: hi anyone- can I recomend that books of interest are also included in bibliograpgy esp if they are outside of the field of engaged/social/participation? I think that would be interesting and useful
8:45 Lisa: Jen, please do recommend any and all books you feel are relevant, useful. More=better.
10:41 Lisa: Awesome. Someone copyedited the interview transcription I did with Teresa. Thank you so much whoever you are.
15:12 Victor: Lisa - have to go be with the girls - but I paste the start of my Rana/Butler piece.
15:12 Victor: What time are you shutting down?
17:00 Lisa: Not until late late tonight
18:00 Lisa: I have to take off until 8. Back then.
May 19, 2010
0:08 Victor: OK - Just added The Politics of Friendship.
0:09 Victor: Now going through and copy editing past spelling.
0:20 Lisa: You are a hero. I didn't finish what I was working on. Will have to get it in the AM.
0:58 Victor: Was great putting it together.
0:59 Victor: Onward.
1:00 Victor: Plus - you and who ever edits this whole thing are my heroes.
May 19, 2010
7:26 Lisa: I have pulled this document out of PiratePad to clean it up, because it seems like we're losing text at the bottom again. If you have anything to add, please email me at radon at ultrapdx.com
11:32 Randall: how long will there be an opportunity to contribute?
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